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Scott has lived in Brookfield for over 20 years and has been 5th District alderman since 2000. This blog will try to round out the views on Brookfield presented by so many others.

August 2008 - Posts

Roundabout & North Avenue Widening

By Scott Berg
Monday, Aug 18 2008, 06:45 AM

Waukesha County owns and maintains certain main arterial roads in Brookfield, including North Avenue (county highway M) and Barker Road (county highway Y).  The county is now proposing a major upgrade to the intersection of North and Barker.  Their budget accommodates either a traditional traffic signal with turn lanes or a roundabout.  No decision has been made yet on that choice.  The Brookfield City Council has limited power over this decision.  You are encouraged to contact the county's engineering representative directly:

Craig Donze, P.E.
One Source Consulting
(262) 784-9005
cdonze@one sourceconsult.com

CTH Y/CTH M Intersection Reconstruction - Brookfield, WI

The ultimate decision rests with a simple majority vote by the Waukesha County Board of Supervisors. The area with the intersection is County Supervisor District 9 and you are welcome to contact the supervisor for that district, former Brookfield 6th District Alderman Jim Heinrich:

District 9 County Supervisor Jim Heinrich
262-796-1814
jheinrich@waukeshacounty.gov

You may see the contact information for all 25 supervisors along with their contact information at WAUKESHA COUNTY SUPERVISOR BOARD MEMBERS

The City of Brookfield is included in supervisory districts 6 (northeast, Janel Brandtjen), 7 (north-central Patricia A. Haukohl), 8 (south-central Tom Schellinger), and 9 (west Jim Heinrich).  As far as I know, none of the supervisors have made a public statement selecting one choice over the other and all of them welcome public comment.

And, of course, your aldermen are very interested in your opinions as well.  The County Supervisors want to do the right thing and will consider the aldermen's comments on your behalf.  So, let me know what you think about the proposal!


For some general background on the topic, see the following articles from the local media:

Brookfield News

August 12, 2008 - Is Brookfield ready for a roundabout? Council rejected idea in 2002, but county controls roads now

Online forum with your comments

PDF with map of proposed roundabout

PDF with map of proposed signalized intersection

Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

August 7, 2008 - Brookfield considers roundabout again to ease rush-hour traffic

July 19, 2008 - Editorial - Editorial: 'Round, 'round we go, Roundabouts are safer and easier on gas consumption than traditional intersections. So why are they controversial?

July 19, 2008 - McIlhern Editorial - Details foul a decent idea (quotes from Ald. Steve Ponto)

July 14, 2008 - Let’s all gather ’round for roundabouts (Laurel Walker opinion)

July 13, 2008 - What’s coming ’round the bend, Drivers can expect more roundabouts

November 10, 2007 - County's first roundabout ready to open in Caledonia


When this topic was voted on by the Brookfield Common Council on May 21, 2002, it was a city only project.  Voting for the roundabout were Ald. Brunner, Garvens, Schulz and Mahkorn.  Voting against were Ald. Steinke, Waffenschmidt, Wolff, Shaw, Ponto, Berg, Clappier, Heinrich (now Supervisor Heinrich), Schellinger (now Supervisor Schellinger), and Franz.

My web site at the time included this statement about why I opposed the roundabout:

  1. The neighbors didn't like it. Once in a while, there is such a compelling public good at stake that elected officials decide to go against popular opinion. For example, buying a fire truck is expensive and may cause taxes to go up which is never popular, but fire trucks are important for the safety of the whole city. Roundabouts are not as important as fire trucks.

  2. Ownership of Barker Road will be transferred to Waukesha County in September, 2002. North Avenue will be transferred in 2004. The expensive improvements will barely be completed before they are given away. Alderman Berg believes Brookfield residents are already giving enough of their tax money away.

  3. There are other reasonable and widely accepted alternatives, including traffic lights and turn lanes. There are even residents who drive through that intersection frequently and state the delays are minimal. Why fix what isn't broke?

Reason 2 is a moot point since the county now owns the roads and it is their responsibility. Since the county tax base is much larger the just the City of Brookfield, the portion being paid by city taxpayers is much smaller than it would have been in 2002.  Points 1 and 3 are as valid as ever.

Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel - 2002 Roundabout Proposal

February 15, 2002 - City going in circles over roundabout Brookfield plan moving ahead despite objections

February 16, 2002 - (Ald. Ponto letter to editor) The Morning Mail Traffic circle won't solve problems

February 20, 2002 - Council puts stop to plan for roundabout Dozens in Brookfield oppose intersection plan

February 22, 2002 - Roundabout may come back around again

February 22, 2002 - Waukesha supervisors give roundabout idea a spin, County taking over Barker Road, North Ave. intersection in Brookfield


North Avenue Widening

A couple of people have asked me if either North Avenue or Barker Road will be widened as part of this project.  Specifically, Brookfield blogger Cindy Kilkenny claimed in a blog response entry of August 13, 2008 at 6:32 a.m. that "With the widening of North Avenue imminent ..."  That is not true - there is no plan to widen North Avenue anytime soon.

This is an email from Waukesha County Director of Public Works Rich Bolte in response to my query:

From: Bolte, Rich [mailto:RBolte@waukeshacounty.gov]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 8:45 AM
To: 'scott@scottberg.com'
Cc: Evans, Gary
Subject: RE: North Avenue, Brookfield Widening  

Scott, the County acknowledges that CTH M (North Ave) in Brookfield should be widened to 4 travel lanes. Current traffic volumes indicate that it already meets the County standard of 13,000 vehicles per day. However, the project is NOT included in either the County’s Adopted 5 Year Capital Plan http://www.waukeshacounty.gov/uploadedFiles/Media/PDF/Administration/Budget/2008_Adopted_Budget/Capital_Projects/05_cap_five_LIST08(1).pdf  nor is it included in our new draft plan to be released in September. From where I sit, it appears highly unlikely that the project will be undertaken in the next 10 years. The 10 year horizon could change based upon requests from the City or other circumstances I can’t predict now. Absent something like that, it’s at least 10 years away. Hope this helps explain things. 

Rich

So, the county manager most responsible for this project makes an assurance that any such widening is 10+ years away and that claim is supported by the official county capital project planning budget.  Any credible journalist would have at least contacted the county (as I did) for confirmation before making such an inflammatory claim.  A responsible and skilled investigator could even have performed an anonymous investigation by looking at the county budget page Waukesha County 2008 Adopted Budget and would have found the page Mr. Bolte linked to.  Do you think the blogger in question possesses such web page search skills?  Could there be an agenda of embitterment clouding the blogger's objectivity and sense of responsibility, or was this merely lazy incompetence?  And I don't know why anyone should be surprised, since inflammatory blunders are a common occurrence in the Kilkenny blog.

The really sad thing is that Brookfield residents like "BrkfldDad" have been completely played for fools by that inaccurate (careless? manipulative?) entry and may be spreading the mis-information, risking their own personal credibility on a falsehood.  I wonder if they will go around retracting that rumor now that it's clearly shown as false, or if they will dodge their responsibility?


 

Update on June 2008 Flood

By Scott Berg
Monday, Aug 4 2008, 07:57 PM

The exceptionally heavy rainfall of early June was devastating for the entire Midwest.  I also know that the storms were a disaster for hundreds of Brookfield residents due to both flooding and sewer backups.  I can assure you that all the aldermen want to know what more can be done.

The key point to keep in mind is that fixing this will be new work, new construction and new regulation, all of which have a price tag.  How much can the city raise your taxes and fees to lessen (no one will make a 100% guarantee) the risk of a recurrence?  I welcome your responses to help guide me and my fellow aldermen in deciding what to do.

On August 3, 6th District Alderman  Jerry Mellone sent an email to Mayor Speaker asking for investigation and possibly legislation regarding flood control in Brookfield. The same request has been made by many of the aldermen since the storm.  The following is Ald. Mellone’s referral and my comments based on my experience.  I did ask Director of Public Works Tom Grisa to review a draft copy for technical accuracy, but these are my comments.  

Here are some reference documents from the city engineering department.

Brookfield City Engineering Report on June, 2008 Floods (PDF, 25k, 4 pages)

Brookfield City Engineering Report on June, 2008 Floods - Update (PDF, 32k, 4 pages)

Brookfield City Engineering Report -  Methods for Improving Stormwater Drain    age, Reducing Flooding, and Minimizing Basement Backups City of Brookfield - June 2008 (PDF, 23k, 2 pages)

Brookfield City Engineering Report  - Sewer and Stormwater system Improvements, 1998 to 2007 (PDF, 53k, 12 pages)


Let me apologize in advance for some odd formatting here.  The blogger software leaves a LOT to be desired.  I may be tuning it up from time to time as I learn more, but I think you'll get the idea.   

    

Ald. Gerald Mellone’s Referral of August 3 and 4, 2008   Ald. Scott Berg’s Comments 

From: Jerry Mellone [mailto:gmellone@att.net]

To: Jeff Speaker

Subject: Legislative Referral Regarding Sewer Back Up
 
Mayor Speaker,This referral is my assessment of the devastating sewer back-ups experienced by some Brookfield residents as a result of the storm this past June. Taking a proactive approach to this problem should result in the correction of a problem that seems insurmountable to everyone involved.  Each flooding problem is unique, but all of these problems could be corrected by following this recommendation. 

 

 

 

This email is a formal request by an alderman for the city staff and aldermanic committees to consider a topic of interest to that alderman on behalf of the residents.  It is addressed to the Mayor in his role as chief administrative officer so that the appropriate staff members can review the topic, discuss it with the alderman for clarification, place it on committee agendas, etc.

It is common to get a new referral on a topic that has been discussed and acted on many times in the past.  In this case, the June floods were a “test” of all the system upgrades made in the last decade.  Of course, every system is built to some design limit.  Why can’t your car travel at 400 mph?  The storms of 1997, 1998 and June, 2008 were well beyond every design limit used by the city.  Raising that design limit is a valid discussion topic, but the price tag will be shocking.

1.  Create a program that inspects and eliminates sump pump discharge into the sanitary system.  This could be accomplished with a voluntary program with instructions to residents and businesses to verify compliance and have laws in place to fine those who do not comply with this program.

 

 

 

 

 

  

Connecting sump pump ejection hoses to the sanitary sewer has never been legal.  Connecting foundation drains was legal until 1954 when the plumbing codes were changed to prohibit it.  Brookfield did inspect for this as part of the flood systems improvements during the last decade and found about a dozen homes in violation out of several thousand. This is common in older parts of Milwaukee, but given the relatively recent construction on Brookfield homes, I doubt this is common here.

Voluntary programs have their share of problems.  If the program is voluntary, yet finding the connection would require you to make the change or be fined, why would you volunteer?  The combination of “voluntary” and “fine those who do not comply” is a conflict of terms.  Another approach would be to make the inspection and repair required upon sale of the house, as is done now with city water connection.  This would require a city inspector to visit the site, which is an added expense to the city.  Of course, the selling homeowner would resist and claim it decreases the selling price of the house. 
1a. If storm water enters the basement through a window well, a window drain can be added by drilling horizontally below the well and directing the water to a sump pump basin.  If the sump basin is not located in this area of the home the water can be discharged into a Sink Tray that can be pumped up to grade away from the area of the basement window.  Sink Trays are available with a ½ HP motor that can pump up to 40 feet of total dynamic head. 

In the days following the June storm, I visited two houses and a condo that would have benefited from such a device.  Of course, you still have the problem of where to put the water you pump out.  The June storm filled every ditch, waterway, storm sewer, etc. past capacity so dumping in more water would not have been immediately possible. 

 

2.  Have staff meet with WE Energies and arrive at solutions to avoid power outages.  Loops in the design of their system could provide back ups to areas susceptible to power outages. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This was done after the 1997-1998 storms.  Since a common cause of power failure is tree limbs breaking or shorting out power lines, it resulted in aggressive tree trimming by WE Energies.  Remember seeing the yellow Asplundh trucks?  Many residents complained when the trees were pruned, even when they clearly surrounded a power line and posed a danger.  Proper placement of trees in the first place so that they would not grow into the power lines would be a better solution, but we’re way past that now.

There are industry standards for an “acceptable” number of power outages and the utility will claim they comply.  As far as I know, the city cannot force a higher standard of power reliability since utilities are already regulated at the federal level.  Looping electrical power is common practice, although I don’t have details on the specific layout of Brookfield’s power grid.  Remember, the power company isn’t making any money during a power failure, so they already have a profit incentive to keep the lines well maintained and minimize power outages.  However, they go through a calculation of whether the “couple of hours every few years” outage costs more in lost profit than the purchase and maintenance of the equipment.  They have no liability for basements flooding, etc. due to the outages. 

 

In the interest of full disclosure, I work for a company that makes exactly this sort of utility control equipment and I know that WE Energies purchases it.  Properly applied, it is effective.  Given that my employer is a $6 billion company and I am a lowly engineer, I would not directly profit from the sale of this equipment and my biggest personal benefit would be more reliable power to my house. 

3.  Encourage and offer incentives to new construction that utilize on site storage and use of rain water.  Rainwater can be stored under parking areas and on site for use on site.  Web sites such as http://rainwatermanagement.com/ and www.ads.com along with others show rain water storage techniques and uses of this water for irrigation, laundries, truck and car wash, flushing toilets etc. This practice will help the overloading of our sanitary system as well as augment our potable water supply.   Brookfield should set an example by utilizing these techniques in the construction of its schools and facilities. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On-site storage is already being done in Brookfield.  Examples include the Johnson Bank at North and Lilly and the new Schlossman’s car dealership on Capitol and Brookfield.  

What is meant by “incentives”?  Having taxpayers pick up the bill?  Granting more variances on density, height, signage, etc.?  That creates as many problems as it solves.  The SEWRPC 2035 Regional Water Study explored rainwater storage,  declared it a minor improvement and did not recommend it.  One consideration is how “dirty” the water gets.  If it’s collected off a roof it is considered mostly clean (thought not drinkable) and simple filtration can remove any dirt.  If it’s collected off a parking lot it may have traces of grease, oil, gas, fertilizers, insecticides, etc. as well as dirt, limiting its use.  Our world is filled with a lot more contaminants than pioneer days.  It is a manageable problem, but the point is that it is not as easy as just filling a rain barrel and dumping it out the next day.  City code already requires keeping the storm water outflow rate from a property to no more than what was happening before the construction.  Of course, if that old rate was already causing flooding, it doesn’t really fix anything.  I have heard resident’s complain about empty and useless retention and detention ponds after the June storms, yet the civil engineers claim they work as designed.  How do we get the “real” story?    These are fairly new ideas conservative property owners will resist using “unproven” techniques that “only drive up our costs”.  How many solar heating panels installed in the late 1970’s are still in operation? So, would forcing the use and expense of these techniques show environmental leadership, or would they just be a disguise for making the cost of new construction in Brookfield so expensive as to stop all development?  Are there two agendas here? 
3a. Storm water can be captured and directed into a cistern.  This can be a 55 gallon drum.  Holding tanks are available starting at 300 gallons to 30,000 gallons for residential and small commercial use.  This water can be used to irrigate, wash cars, etc.  If there is a recurring drainage problem, neighbors could get together and share in the cost of the installation of a cistern.  There is a payback by saving on their water bills.  This practice may or may not solve a flooding problem depending on the area it will serve and the storm event. 

This option is gaining attention as a water conservation method as well as a flood control mechanism.

 

 

 

4.  For those homes still affected by sewer backup, Brookfield should help the residents isolate those problem homes and utilize back water valves to stop the sewer backup.  In-line back water valves, due to design flaws, can add to the problem because the flapper tends to trap debris rendering these valves ineffective.  There is an automatic operating back water valve manufactured by J. R. Smith Co. that utilizes the pressure created in the line to activate a stainless steel knife gate that stops the back flow when the sewer is in flood stage.  This device automatically stops the back up and opens a full port line when the flood subsides.  This device has proven effective for over 10 years and gives the home owners peace of mind that their home will no longer flood due to sewer back up.

 

 

What does “help the residents” mean? 

Should tax dollars be used to buy them for residents?  Why should my taxes go up to pay for someone else’s poor plumbing?What if your basement never flooded but you wanted a valve just in case?  Does the city buy you one anyway?It’s mechanical so sooner or later it will clog, leak or fail.  Does the city inspect and maintain the valves forever?  Does the city incur liability if the valve fails?If the water stops flowing to a basement it still has to go somewhere.  What happens when the neighbor who never had flooding gets all that water?  Did the city really help anyone?I have no personal experience with these devices, but I have heard they work well.  There are several models, but most require digging up the lateral between your house and the city sewer and inserting the valve.  This requires a professional plumbing contractor.   You can learn more at:  http://www.backwater-valves.com/ Several city web sites mention using these valves, but I don’t know of any that require them, endorse them or subsidize them.http://www.torrnet.com/12673.htm http://www.lacity.org/SAN/lasewers/sewers/spills/backwater_valves.htm 

5.  If storm water from a sump pump is the cause of a flooded basement due to power outages, there are battery operated sump pumps that can be installed to alleviate this problem.  These require a well-maintained battery. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Battery operated sump pumps are available many home improvement stores.  They are 12 volt pumps sometimes used a bilge pumps on motorboats.  A large battery can operate them for several hours.

I installed one at my house with little difficulty.  I test it at least once per year by unplugging the main pump (simulates power or pump failure) and using a hose to fill the sump.  Make sure the drain hose is unobstructed and flows well away from the house.Maintenance of the battery is critical.  I recommend a deep discharge marine battery.  The acid levels should be checked one to two times per years and the battery should be replaced every 5 to 10 years.  There are low maintenance batteries that don’t need to be checked, but that adds to cost.  I follow a pretty conservative practice, but would you rather have the pump fail when it’s needed the most?  Given that the pump will run only when you have a lot of rain and no power, it could be several years between activations.Another solution is a home generator.  They are expensive and portable ones can be difficult to connect and maintain.  The “best” is a permanent installation, runs on natural gas and automatically switches on when power fails and will cost upwards (often WAY up) of $5,000. 

 

By the way, I paid for my battery powered pump with my own money.  Will the city pay for new ones?  Can I get reimbursed?  I mean, my (increased) taxes will be paying for the new ones for everyone else, right? 

If the home owner is not inclined to maintain this equipment, they could install a city water activated sump pump that works like an aspirator during a power failure.  City water pressure creates a siphon on the sump pump discharge and automatically dumps the water to grade during a power failure.  This is manufactured by Base Pump.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have seen these water powered pumps at home improvement stores but have no personal experience with them.  They have no moving  pump parts (it uses the Venturi effect) but they do have check valves that can fail.  They are considered highly reliable, but not perfect.

City water pressure is maintained during blackouts by water towers and emergency generators at key well stations.  This is a relatively new DNR requirement and is really meant to maintain water pressure for firefighting during a blackout.  You could make an argument about “wasting” drinking water to pump out your basement, but in the rare emergency I think it’s a reasonable option.  Of course, you will be billed for the water.For reference, an average sump pump is 1/3 horsepower and can move 25 gallons/minute (GPM) or 1,500 gallons/hour (gph).  It is common in Brookfield to have two independent sump pumps and having one not operate off utility power is a reasonable idea.For more information, check these web sites (and no, I have no connection to these companies – I found them using Google).  http://www.radonseal.com/pumps/water-powered-pumps.htm    http://www.1stflash.com/files/Basementsaver.htm  

http://www.senecaplumbing.com/backup-sump-pumps.html 

By the way, the irony of water powered sump pumps is that they add the storm water AND the city water to the already overloaded drainage system.

6.  Brookfield could also purchase gasoline or diesel powered pumps.  These pumps could be used to pump out problem areas during power failures and high event storms. 

 

 

 

 

The Sewer District has several large gas powered pumps.  They are deployed during large rain events based on past experience and on resident complaint.  The intake hose is lowered into a manhole in a flooded area and the outgoing hose drains into the nearby ditch.  If the water being drained includes sewage, this is considered a negative environmental event and must be reported to the DNR.  If a city or sewer district has too many of these events, the DNR can force corrective action, levy fines, etc.  The DNR has engineering standards to decide how “bad” the event is, whether it can reasonably be prevented from happening again, etc. 

 

The Dept. of Public Works should have a disaster plan in place before we have another event like we had in June. 

In fact, there are emergency plans.  These will be described at an upcoming meeting (see below). 
Please include the above for discussion at our Sewer and Water Board and on the Council floor.   Sincerely Yours, Jerry Mellone  Alderman Sixth District

 

 

A discussion of the June floods is already planned for the next meeting of the Sewer Board and Board of Public Works.  That will be on Tuesday, August 12 at 7:00 p.m. in the City Hall Council Chambers. 

The public is always welcome to observe.  However, this meeting is intended to inform the alderman about the staff’s observations and start the type of discussion Ald. Mellone is requesting.  
 

There are several other possible approaches:

1) Hung  (suspended, overhead) plumbing.  This is in use in Brookfield and Elm Grove.  It is expensive, but effective.

2) Many roadside ditches have been replaced with a culvert  (ditch enclosure).  It makes lawn care easier, but has less capacity (the round pipe is smaller than the original ditch) and doesn't collect water for it's entire length (it's closed, not open everywhere like a ditch).  Those ditches could be restored.  Better stormwater collection and flow but less pretty for the owner.  Where's the balance? 

3) Remove obstructions to water flow.  Inspect every yard and remove trees, shrubs, flowerbeds, sheds, fences, etc. that are in the intended path of the water flow.  Of course, that path is seldom obvious and is only occasionally protected by a city stormwater easement, making it legally difficult, not to mention incredibly heavy handed, to make these changes.  So how do you motivate a landowner to improve his property to allow stormwater flow to benefit someone else?

4) Change the design standards.  The current stormwater system (ditches, culverts, etc.) is designed to handle a "10 year event" (10% likelihood of happening in any given year.  Remember, people win that 50 million to 1 lottery all the time).  It could be changed to some higher standard.  I am told costs escalate very rapidly and what do you do about all the current "undersized" facilities?

 

Finally, there is the real “third rail” of sewer policy.  Many of the sewer pipes (laterals) connecting the house to the sewer in the street are defective.  Tree roots, poor soils, bad installation, etc. can make them leak like crazy.  Besides the sewage leaking out, they let rainwater leak in. 

The city uses a television camera to inspect every inch of its street located sewer lines in roughly a 20 year cycle.  The first inspection cycle was compressed to only 10 years, which just ended.  This resulted in many otherwise unknown problems being discovered and repaired in the last several years.  In theory, it could be extended to home laterals.   So suppose your lateral running under that big oak tree in the front yard is leaking like crazy, allowing rainwater into the sewer system that floods your downhill neighbors.  Should the city be able to inspect your pipe and force you to repair it at your expense?  After all, it is your pipe that is causing sewer backups on your street. 
 

In the interest of full disclosure, I want to add that Ald. Jerry Mellone and his family, including Ald. Lisa Mellone, are the owners of Northland Sales, Inc. of New Berlin, a wholesale plumbing supplier who sells many of the devices listed here.  

This means they have good professional credibility when discussing the effectiveness of these products.  

 It also raises the issue of a conflict of interest if they are a major supplier of such parts for this area.  

Ald. Lisa Mellone has abstained from a few city project votes to avoid this conflict.

 http://www.northlandsalesinc.com/index.htm 
 

So, what do you think?  

 
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